Clairen dash attack#424
As a former Clairen main I always wondered, why is that move a thing ? Like, Clairen have this monopoly on hitboxes, her only flaw is that you have a decent shot at whiff punishing her approach
But then here comes the dash attack, that either catch you by surprise when you’re very focused on the precise spacing you need to beat her aerials and tilts combined with her very high speed, or you start to wait for it and leave a lot of room to Clairen to decide how she will approach you in neutral
Like it’s even safe if you end up spacing it on shield, I think it does so much for the character, at least online it did a lot for me, but to fight it’s a bit annoying in its current state
You’re a (former) Clairen main and you seriously claim that her dash attack is a god move? Its utility is good, I won’t lie but it has a ton of startup and can’t be utilized in close range. I know its dash range can be cut with moonwalk but that adds additional trigger time and you’d rather use a jab or any tilt at close range. Most of the time you’d want to use it from certain distance and at that point it becomes predictable and easy to guard. Once shielded you’re eating a punish due to endlag. It’s not safe at all lmao.
I didn’t say it’s a god move, I said on Clairen kit it does something she shouldn’t be able to do, burst really far away, and that it was “ a little annoying to fight “, don’t blow my post out of proportions. Nothing you list is countering my point, if you “ are waiting for it “ that’s already a win for Clairen, and if you block the tipper it’s safe as hell, I specified “ spacing it on shield “. Obviously if you’re hitting the opponent with your face and throwing it every 3 seconds you’re going to be in trouble, but that’s the same for a lot of great moves, that’s not the point. It’s the very fact you have to account for it that is strong imo. There is a lot of matches where my opponent was moving really well, got hit by two dash attacks and started to act much more scared and it gave a buff to all my other options.
But then here comes the dash attack, that either catch you by surprise when you’re very focused on the precise spacing you need to beat her aerials and tilts combined with her very high speed, or you start to wait for it and leave a lot of room to Clairen to decide how she will approach you in neutral
You can’t be serious saying all this dude 💔
You got a frame 1 defensive option, her dash attack’s use is predictable as hell due to distance and her unique startup animation, making it easy to telegraph and you’re telling me my points mean nothing meanwhile you literally complain that Clairen uses a dash attack when you’re caught off-guard and that she shouldn’t be able to do that. Whose points make no sense again? That’s totally on you.
And despite everything you have written about other moves (they have clear flaws too but that’s off-topic), you still insisted that her dash attack is complain-worthy.
Like it’s even safe if you end up spacing it on shield
It is NOT safe on shield. Tipper hit on shield is around minus-18 according to the wiki; its frontal hitbox is quite small so you’ll get a reversal against her if you shieldgrab or do a shieldhop aerial. What if she ends up behind you while hitting your shield? She is still minus! Go and shieldhop aerial her or up b if you’re Slade.
“It does something she shouldn’t be able to do”
And why she shouldn’t? She has no projectile, her range is limited, she runs fast but that alone isn’t gonna protect her from a hitbox especially that she still needs to get close to the enemy. There comes her dash attack. A move designed to quickly close the distance between her and her opponenet while attempting to have an opening.
There is a lot of matches where my opponent was moving really well, got hit by two dash attacks and started to act much more scared and it gave a buff to all my other options.
What are you trying to claim or prove here? That you fought opponents that struggled with the move or have poor mental? Tell them to work more on these issues. Simple
From your answer it seems you strongly feel she needs a gap closer so from there I think we would never agree regardless of the specifics, so I’ll just wish you a pleasant day instead mate !